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Many thanks to Heroyalwhyness for providing a transcript of Dr. Warner’s talk. If the video generates enough interest abroad to warrant a “Rosetta Stone” project, this timed transcript will come in handy.


Update: The transcript has been revised to make the lines of more uniform length, so that Vlad can create subtitles more easily. If you intend to use this for translation, please use this new version and discard the old one:


00:09 As I told you on 9/11, I suddenly realized it was my task to make difficult books readable,

00:14 which is what I have done on the back table.

00:17 I sometimes describe myself as a man who reads big, thick, old books

00:21 and writes modern small books that anyone can understand.

00:24 And actually, I rather enjoy it. I don’t surf the web.

00:27 People are disappointed when they run into me sometime, and some other counter jihadist asks,

00:30 ‘Have you seen my website?’ No.

00:33 I don’t even go to my own website.

00:37 I have very little interest in the web, except for ‘Craig’s List’, yahoo headlines and Drudge. That’s it.

00:43 So, I like reading big, thick, old books. I really do.

00:48 I thought when I got my books written in which the Qur’an was easy to understand,

00:53 here’s Mohammed easy to understand, all these books on shariah and everything were easy to understand.

00:59 I thought, ‘we win’.

01:01 No. We don’t even have game.

01:03 Cause, what I discovered was, other than a minority few - and trust me you are so minor.

01:09 Everyone else’s reaction to the knowledge, to the answer to the question,

01:14 ‘What is the true nature of Islam?’ - react in fear, hatred and anger.

01:22 When I try to explain to people something about Islam, they are terrified.

01:27 So, I thought people would run when I got my books published.

01:29 And, indeed, they did run - away from me.

01:34 So, I thought there was just one great question. . .’what is the true nature of Islam?’

01:38 But, I found there was a second question, more important.

01:42 Why are we afraid to know Islam?

01:46 Now, remember when I told you about stories?

01:50 Here’s the thing. My books are factual.

01:54 They work here. [Dr. Warner points to his forehead at the temple.]

01:56 But in dealing with human beings, you are going to make a sale.

01:59 Any salesman will tell you this.

02:00 Facts are secondary to feelings.

02:04 And where you get the feelings is from stories, amongst other places.

02:08 I begin to think about ‘why is everyone so afraid, even though they don’t know anything.

02:14 Well, it turns out, they do know little figments of stories about Islam, that involve violence.

02:20 And the knowledge that they were into the slave trade does not come as a shock, really.

02:25 So, remember that I told you about the house of Sufism was a palace with a smell coming up from the basement?

02:33 Everyone smelled that smell.

02:35 They just don’t want to talk about it.

02:38 But it’s somewhere deep in the back, almost primordial mind.

02:45 So, the problem is we don’t know the history of Islam.

02:49 We don’t know the answer to this question. . .[Dr. Warner points to screen]

02:56 This is the World of Islam. How did it happen?

03:00 You can ask very intelligent people, and they will not be able to give you the answer to this question.

03:05 How did North Africa go from being European and Christian to being Arab and Muslim?

03:11 How did that happen? And is that an important question?

03:18 How did the Middle East go from being Christian to Muslim? And is that an important question?

03:24 I think it’s an overwhelmingly important question.

03:29 All right. Now to understand how the Islamic World came about, we are going to

03:32 have to go about and see how Islam entered our world.

03:35 Now, to do that, Islam entered the world of the Byzantine Empire.

03:41 We know that in the Sira [Mohammed’s life] his last days were spent

03:45 killing Christians and subjugating them.

03:50 After he died, that process continued.

03:55 So, let’s describe the world that Islam invaded.

04:02 Now, we are told that the Roman Empire collapsed when the German Barbarians invaded Rome.

04:05 You all heard that story?

04:08 Well, that’s false. That is not true. It is wrong.

04:12 What happened was, after the German Barbarian tribes invaded Rome,

04:16 they set up their own version of the Roman Empire.

04:19 They retained classical culture. They spoke Roman.

04:23 They hired Roman philosophers and Roman attorneys to teach their children and run their schools.

04:31 They came into the Roman Empire, not to destroy the Empire but just to get the goods for themselves.

04:40 The eastern part of the Empire, called the Byzantine Empire is over here.

04:45 Now this is after the German invasion. The important point is this -

04:49 THEY WERE STILL A CLASSICAL EMPIRE. IT’S NOT COLLAPSED.

04:55 Then, after the fall of Rome, the Byzantines gradually exerted their political influence,

04:59 so now this was the new form of the Roman Empire.

05:03 This is the Byzantine Empire and it is about to be invaded. This is the classical world that Islam invaded.

05:11 Notice that the classical world is still up and running.

05:17 It’s critical to remember that. It had not - it was now weak but it was still up and running.

05:23 We are going to see what caused it’s collapse.

05:25 Here we see in twenty five years, three stages of development of the spread of Islam.

05:31 This is twenty five years work. How is it that the Arabs were able

05:35 to do to the Byzantine Empire what the Persians could not do in Iran?

05:45 Here is the answer to that question. It has to do with Iran, actually.

05:49 The Greeks and the Persians were having wars since forever.

05:53 The 300 at Thermopylae, that was about the Persians.

06:05 Alexander the Great defeated the Persians.

06:08 The Persians kept hammering on the Romans and Byzantines and 25 years before Islam invaded

06:12 there was one massive series of battles that left Persia weak and the Byzantine Empire very weak.

06:22 Then comes along the Black Plague. One person in three dies.

06:28 So the Byzantine Empire, when Islam invaded had been weakened

06:32 by a long war with Persia and the loss of a third of it’s population.

06:37 The economy had collapsed by two thirds. You think the Obama economy is bad? Try two thirds.

06:45 So, we had an empire that was weak invaded by a people with a mission.

06:53 Now what’s important here is, these three different shades of green represent the different Caliphs.

07:00 This Empire is beginning to build here, came from people who could be described as the apostles of Mohammed.

07:08 Why is it important to know that?

07:11 They knew Mohammed. They held his hand. One of them, Ali married his daughter.

07:16 Abu Bakr was his father-in-law. These people are not just brothers in the religious sense.

07:24 They are brothers in the family sense.

07:28 They knew Mohammed like I know my wife. And what did they do?

07:34 Did they go out preaching the qur’an? No they didn’t.

07:38 They picked up their swords, got on their camels and horses and went out attacking Christians and Persians.

07:49 That is, this is the true nature of Islam.

07:55 There you see it. This is the fruit on the tree. Massive destruction.

08:00 Now, notice something else that has happened here.

08:04 Egypt is the bread basket of the Mediterranean.

08:09 Syria, the heart of the intellectual world in the Classical Empire.

08:15 In twenty-five years, the Classical civilization lost it’s ability to feed itself and lost it’s biggest brain trust.

08:23 This destroys classical Christianity.

08:29 Christianity that we have today is a bloody stump of the original Christianity.

08:37 Why? This destroyed the heart of it. Transformed it.

08:42 The first stage of the annihilation of the Classical empire - gone. The heart of it is gone.

08:53 OK, a century later, notice over here in Spain, 750 AD, Spain is already Muslim.

09:03 This is rapid fire conquest. This is going to become very important - because this was not -

09:07 this happened, as it were, in the life of a nation - overnight.

09:12 This brutal assault is the key as to why we fear Islam.

09:20 Now then, you are next going to see history that have not heard before.

09:24 I’m not a historian, but I am a scientist and I can reason from data.

09:32 I knew once I read the story of Mohammed that I had been fed a pack of lies

09:36 about what caused the Dark Ages.

09:41 Roman Barbarians didn’t cause the Dark Ages.

09:44 You tell me they were too stupid to learn how to do Roman law and stuff? Of course not.

09:48 First off, why would - these Barbarians were Germans. These were the same people who made Germany.

09:56 They were very intelligent people. They didn’t cause the collapse.

10:00 But that is the classical theory. You go to Vanderbilt, that is what they will teach you.

10:07 Here we go with the data. There has recently been a lot of ancient classical works

10:10 translated into a database format, so it can be accessed.

10:19 There has been massive archaeological research under the ocean and at the edge of the Mediterranean.

10:23 From this archaeological research, we are able to track history and economies. That figure

10:27 that I gave you about how the economy collapsed, that came from the study of sunken vessels.

10:35 Because, if you’re not buying much - Let’s say one in ten ships is sunk -

10:39 that figure is not that high - but whatever.

10:44 If you see a lot of sunken ships, there was a lot of ships sailing around.

10:47 When they go down, the economy goes down.

10:50 So, from this data, we know a lot, and this in particular,

10:54 the database of ancient documents gives us 548 battles that Islam fought against the Classical world.

11:05 This is all new information. I have talked with people who consider themselves history buffs,

11:09 and they go, ‘let’s see, battles of Islam against Europe, let’s see we’ve got invasion at Tours,

11:13 we’ve got the invasion at Gibraltar, we’ve got Lepanto, Gates of Vienna - ok, that’s five.

11:25 You talk to a historian and those are the five battles they can scratch up.

11:33 And I remind you - you can have all of these slides if you send me an e-mail for it.

11:38 OK, what does this new data show us? It shows us this. See the white spots,

11:42 they are brand new battles and are going to change to red. The white, these are new.

11:47 Every time, I’m going to show you this all over again. Every tic is twenty years. The new battles

11:51 for that twenty year period come up in white, then they fade to red to show you the history.

12:02 So, whites are what’s happening right now, red has happened. Let’s see how these 548 battles act out.

12:14 We are going to watch in seventy seconds we’ll see twelve hundred years of conquest.

12:18 Look how fast this is happening.

12:23 Bam. You didn’t know France was hammered that hard, did you? You heard of Tours.

12:29 Watch what is happening in Spain, in the islands. Now, many of these raids and battles,

12:33 if they are at the coast line are slave raids.

12:37 The slaving that took place here was extensive and went on and on. All of this work was now. . .

12:41 we’re into the Golden Age of Baghdad. This is the punishment that

12:45 is being handed out to Christians everywhere.

12:54 In Spain, after one battle, there were, knights heads were cut off

12:58 and they made a pile so high that a man on horseback could not see over them.

13:08 All of the European civilization in North Africa is now gone.

13:16 Question from audience: ‘I have a question, have you read the thirteenth tribe?’ Reply: ‘No’.

13:22 Now pretty soon, and by the way, there will be a period of time - you can see the clock running up

13:26 here - there will be a brief blip of five battles that occur in North Africa - The Barbary Pirate Wars.

13:34 We’re on there. OK? Now then, Byzantium has fallen as Eastern Europe is being hammered.

13:38 Notice that it is relentless, it doesn’t stop:

13:54 This is the history that you are never told about.

13:58 This is the history that explains how all of this came about.

14:02 Now they are getting slower because Islam is becoming weaker.

14:19 Question from the audience: ‘Why was it becoming weaker?’ Reply:

14:24 ‘Corruption. All empires collapse from the inside, ultimately.’ OK.

14:31 I say that what caused the collapse of classical civilization was not a result of the invading

14:35 German Barbarian tribes. I say that classical civilization was destroyed by Islam.

14:45 Now comes a question. Why do we not want to know that? We are going to answer that question.

14:55 Now let me give you the headlines. With all those little dots, basically what I’ve showed you

14:58 is just ‘quantity’. OK? Relentless, but quantity.

15:02 We’ve given you twelve hundred years of battles in seventy seconds, now we’re going to go through,

15:06 in about four minutes, I’m going to give you the headlines from each century

15:10 so you’ll know the emotional tone of what is happening.

15:19 All right - seventh century. Mohammed sent Khalid out and the sword of Allah

15:23 to the Jazima tribe to offer Islam, they refused, he annihilated every one of them.

15:30 At the battle of Olayis in Iraq for two days he spent out rounding up the losers,

15:34 put them in a dry stream bed and cut off their heads until the stream ran with blood.

15:40 He then took the captain of the Zoroastrian Persian tribe, his wife was there.

15:44 He cut off the man’s head, let the blood drain into the soil and raped his wife in the bloody soil.

15:48 That was one of the companions of Mohammed.

15:55 This is the nature of jihad.

15:58 Where did Khalid learn how to do that? From Mohammed. From Mohammed at the Battle of Khaybar.

16:06 Umar conquered Jerusalem, and every Jew and Christian became a dhimmi

16:10 which is a third-class semi-slave.

16:15 For the next few centuries you are going to see ‘THE GOLDEN AGE’.

16:19 We’re taught this myth of ‘THE GOLDEN AGE’ - how wonderful Islam is.

16:23 So here is what is happening here in ‘THE GOLDEN AGE’.

16:27 They started attacking the Sind, which is the Hindus, 26,000 Hindus died.

16:33 Armenian nobles were herded into a church after a debate

16:38 and the building burned down on top of them. At Ephesus, 7000 Greeks are enslaved.

16:41 We’re still in ‘THE GOLDEN AGE’.

16:42 All new churches were ordered destroyed.

16:45 At Amorium, there was massive enslavement of all the Christians. The Egyptian Christians revolt

16:49 over the jizyah which is the dhimmi tax based on the shariah. Churches are burned, villages destroyed.

16:56 Tenth Century, we are still in ‘THE GOLDEN AGE’.

16:57 In Thessalonica, 22,000 Christians were enslaved. Christians massacred in Seville.

17:01 In Egypt and Syria, 30,000 churches destroyed. You have your religion, I have mine.

17:12 Still in THE GOLDEN AGE.

17:14 6,000 Jews of Morocco killed. Hundreds of Jews in Cordoba killed. 4000 Jews of Granada killed.

17:18 Georgia and Armenia invaded. In Hindustan 15,000 killed, a half million are enslaved.

17:22 A GOLDEN AGE is still upon us.

17:28 In Yemen, the Jews are given the choice of convert or die. Christians of Granada

17:32 are deported to Morocco. In India, many cities are destroyed under the order to convert or die.

17:36 In one town, 20,000 Hindus became slaves.

17:40 Still THE GOLDEN AGE.

17:43 50,000 Hindu slaves decided to get freedom by converting to Islam.

17:48 A new 20 year campaign created 400,000 new Muslims out of Hindus.

17:51 Buddhist monks butchered, nuns raped.

17:54 In Damascus and Safed, mass murder of Christians. Jews of Marrakesh massacred.

17:59 Tabriz - Forced conversions of Jews.

18:03 Still, we’re in THE GOLDEN AGE.

18:04 There are riots in Cairo. Churches are burned. Jews of Tabriz are forced to convert.

18:09 Tamerlane, one of the most evil men who ever lived massacred 90,000 Hindus in one day.

18:16 30,000 in another battle massacred in India in cold blood.

18:19 Another Muslim leader takes 180,000 Hindu slaves.

18:25 Oooops, we’re out of THE GOLDEN AGE. See if you can notice any change in tenor.

18:27 Tamerlane destroys another 700 villages in India. He then turned to Iraq

18:31 and destroyed the Nestorian and Jacobite Christians.

18:42 The Nestorian Christians - half of the silk trade from China was Nestorian Christian.

18:46 The Nestorian Christians had emissaries and missionaries in the Court of China.

18:50 Afghanistan was partly Christian. All right? Gone.

19:01 This is part of the destruction of the church that no one knows about.

19:07 Seven hundred years of attack, they finally destroy Constantinople.

19:10 Sixteenth Century

19:12 The son of Tamerlane destroys temples, forced conversions.

19:15 Two of his generals built two towers of human heads. Once again, you couldn’t see over them.

19:19 And then noble women, Hindu women started the practice of suttee

19:23 which was mass suicide in order not to become sex slaves inside of the sultans harem.

19:30 17th Century Jews of Yemen and Persia forced to convert. Forced conversion

19:34 of Greeks and Zoroastrian are persecuted in Persia and over half million Hindus killed.

19:44 18th Century, more Zoroastrian persecution, Jews of Jedda are expelled,

19:48 Jews of Morocco are massacred, Hindu persecution continues.

19:51 19th Century

19:53 More forced conversion of Jews in Iran, Jews of Baghdad massacred.

19:58 Oooops, quarter million Armenian Christians are slaughtered in Turkey.

20:02 Now then, in Persia, the Zoroastrians are completely annihilated.

20:03 Twentieth Century

20:07 Over one million Armenian Christians are killed. One million.

20:15 So, you now not only know the number of battles, you now see the tenor of what’s going on.

20:19 You now know quality and quantity.

20:26 Do you get the drift on how bad this was?

20:32 Now then, the establishment doctrine holds that classical collapse had nothing to do with Islam

20:36 and indeed, Islam was a source of good because the hillbilly Europeans lost their classical learning

20:40 and the shrewd, smart Arab Muslims preserved all the knowledge in THE GOLDEN AGE.

20:49 This is what is taught in our schools.

20:55 I maintain that it was annihilated by Islam.

21:00 OK, we now need - we’ve been talking about land here.

21:04 I now want to talk about water because classical civilization was based upon the Mediterranean Sea.

21:14 Egypt was part of the Mediterranean world. It was not part of the African world. OK?

21:23 Because to go from Alexandria, Egypt to Nigeria was a lifetime.

21:27 But you get on a ship and can be there in ten days.

21:32 Does this make sense? It was cheap transportation.

21:36 You could haul a ton of grain from Egypt to Rome for as much as it cost to send 75 miles by ox cart.

21:44 This is important. I’m going to be driving back on the interstate after I finish talking here.

21:48 I do not expect to be attacked or shot at, on the way. I presume that the interstate is safe travel.

21:57 It used to be that way under the Roman peace. That ended.

22:03 The importance of naval work, as many as 500 boats could be in the harbor at Constantinople.

22:07 The collapse of the freedom at sea.

22:13 Let me show you something. We know this from history. The data.

22:17 Rome used to communicate with France by boat. After Islam,

22:21 they went over land through the Alps. Why did they do that?

22:25 There was no longer freedom of the sea.

22:33 Here’s interesting - the black plague was a known problem in the Mediterranean. It used to take

22:37 four months to get from here to Constantinople because there was sea trade going back and forth.

22:45 Well, that was eliminated. So now when there was an outbreak of the black plague,

22:49 it went from harbor to harbor to harbor all around here and it took four years to get to here.

22:58 Do you see the point that I’m making? It was that little freedom of trade. As a merchant striking out to

23:02 do business, you could wind up with your ship gone, your goods gone, and you’re in chains/enslaved.

23:13 By the way, this cuts down a lot on commerce.

23:20 A brag . . . the Christians couldn’t float a plank on the inland sea.

23:25 What did this do? It isolated Europe. It impoverished Europe.

23:30 So, you know the business of the Barbary pirates? Same - Same.

23:42 It is the Sunna. ‘The Sunna’, ‘The Way of Mohammed’

23:46 There is a famous hadith which is repeated endlessly in which Mohammed awakes in a dream

23:50 and he sees his jihadists sailing the inland sea.

23:57 Islam always practices, where possible, economic warfare. Mohammed attacked caravans.

24:07 What was attacked in New York? Oooo, World Trade Center. This [Dr. Warner points to screen]

24:15 Economic warfare. I am an admirer of Islamic civilizational war methods.

24:22 They are superior to everyone else’s thinking in war. They use everything for war.

24:25 Everything, including the womb.

24:27 This was an economic jihad.

24:31 There were three. . .remember the Dark Ages? Well, there were three Dark Ages.

24:39 One in Europe - One in Turkey - One in North Africa.

24:45 You weren’t told that, were you? I wonder why?

24:49 Here we see some ruins

24:51 What is the importance of these ruins? Well, they are up and standing.

24:54 What happened to all the ruins in Rome?

24:57 Well, the people that were still living there were using them as quarries.

25:00 They harvested them. The Coliseum remained simply because it was so big.

25:05 What does this tell us here? If all this stone is still stacked up. There were no people.

25:11 The invasion of North Africa was so brutal and so fast that it actually left in the harbor a layer of silt.

25:19 Here’s how that happened.

25:22 North Africa used to be farmland, irrigated farmland.

25:26 The Romans, clever men that they were - put along the roads in North Africa,

25:30 olive trees for shade and for keeping the roads fixed for free.

25:35 Because all that happened is, you would bid on buying a lease for a stretch of Roman road

25:39 in North Africa. You maintain the olive trees and the road, and you got to keep the olives.

25:47 So, the Romans got money from selling the lease and then they got the road fixed for free,

25:51 and someone has a business making money.

25:55 Is this clever, or what?

25:59 That all ended. The invading Arabs were not farmers. They were herdsmen.

26:02 The people there were Christian, and so therefore, the goat -

26:06 the average Arab family would own fifty goats.

26:12 They put their goats out into the fields of the Christians. The Christians,

26:16 as dhimmis would have no right to protest.

26:19 Between death and the erosion of crops, there was produced a layer of silt in the harbors.

26:29 That’s how brutal, hard and fast came this collapse of the economy in North Africa.

26:35 What was left for the European economy? Furs, lumber, swords and slaves.

26:43 We’re now really getting to one of the points where we don’t want to know this history.

26:49 Anybody here, all real proud about how some of your ancestors were taken off a coast in Italy

26:53 and then put into a harem in North Africa?

26:56 And now you have children from that? Distant relations?

27:01 You see, you may have distant relations in the Arab world you don’t know about

27:05 because a million Christians were sold into slavery.

27:10 And, by the way, the Venetians helped to do that.

27:16 And another embarrassing piece of news is this, the Jews were very big

27:19 in the trans-Mediterranean slave trade.

27:22 Nobody comes out of this looking good. No one looks good.

27:26 You also begin to say, I don’t really want to know anything about this history at all.

27:32 OK? Are you catching on here?

27:37 The other thing we are told is so bad about Christianity and so pitiful

27:41 about those poor Muslims are The Crusades.

27:46 Who’s ever heard this? Well, the Christian Crusades, that’s so embarrassing. Gosh, we went out

27:50 of Europe and went over there and invaded the Arab lands and then we killed them and hurt them.

27:55 I’ve heard preachers wallow in pity about how drastically bad The Crusades were.

28:05 All right.

28:08 Islam destroyed 30,000 churches. The Jews and Christians were dhimmis.

28:11 There was infinite brutality against Christians. Christians were fleeing the Middle East.

28:15 The Byzantine emperor appealed to the Pope, ‘Help us, please.’

28:23 Now this was a big thing to do because the Byzantine emperor and the Pope

28:27 did not get along at all. But these were desperate people.

28:31 What did the Pope look out and see?

28:35 This is the world that he saw in 1100, the time of the first Crusade.

28:40 Well, let’s see, there’s much of Spain is Muslim and we’re getting our behind kicked

28:44 on a regular basis. Oh, well, this Christianity is gone. Whoops, this Christianity is gone.

28:55 And look at all the battles in the areas that are still Christian.

29:01 Do you see the geopolitical problem the Pope was facing here?

29:06 This was not just some, you know we’ll just saddle up our horses and go steal from them Arabs -

29:10 which is what you are told.

29:12 This is the political picture.

29:16 Now then, let’s look at a battle map for the Crusades. Let’s be fair,

29:20 I’ve showed you the jihad map. Now here comes the Crusade Battle map.

29:32 We’re almost done. . .that’s it.

29:39 Now we’re told that the Crusades are the moral equivalent of jihad

29:43 and therefore we need to be ashamed and whine and cry.

29:48 The Crusades were defensive. They lasted three hundred years.

29:51 The last one was over eight hundred years ago.

29:54 All the jihad was offensive, lasted fourteen hundred years and is still happening right now.

30:00 In all probability, there are Christians being slaughtered in Nigeria today.

30:07 Now, is this moral equivalence?

30:14 Why, why, why won’t they teach this in a church school?

30:20 So, the ministers will stump ‘Oh, the Crusades were just so terrible’.

30:24 No. The Crusades were one of the few times the church put steel in its spine.

30:29 Then we apologized for it.

30:32 Now then, let’s go to ‘the great benefits of Islam’.

30:36 We’re told about two different ‘Golden Ages’.

30:39 We’re told about al Andalus, the wonderful empire in Spain in which there was multicultural peace.

30:47 Jew and Christian and Muslim all lived together in a ‘Golden Age in Europe’.

30:51 You ever heard that?

30:56 This is the battle map of the ‘Golden Age in Andalus’.

31:03 Now while all this is going on, orders for slaves are being filled.

31:07 The first slave order out of Spain was the Caliph ordered up three thousand blonde virgins.

31:15 They were shipped out of Spain. Battles are going on in which Christian Knights die.

31:24 But notice something here, the Christians won’t quit fighting.

31:30 This is going to take seven hundred years and is going to be nearly two hundred -

31:34 over a hundred fifty battles fought.

31:37 A question from the audience: ‘Where was this Caliph located?’

31:40 Reply: ‘There was more than one Caliph at the time. This was a Caliph in North Africa.

31:50 Now then, looking at this, do you understand why when Isabelle and Ferdinand

31:54 were finally in full power, they told every Muslim in Spain to get out of here?

32:00 They drove everyone out.

32:05 OK. My question to you is this. Was Andalus a multicultural ‘Golden Age’ or ‘Reign of Terror’?

32:13 I claim it was a ‘Reign of Terror’ and it was not a ‘Golden Age’ at all.

32:17 And yes, there were a few people who had it good.

32:21 The elites had it good. There were some rich Jews and rich Christians that had it good.

32:27 Otherwise there was constant war and slavery.

32:29 Christians had to wear robes so that you could tell a Christian from a block away.

32:33 And a Christian couldn’t carry a sword and paid special taxes.

32:38 Then we come to the question, ‘why are we told this story?’

32:41 Now we have the Baghdad Golden Age.

32:47 Here we go. This is all the battles that were fought during the period of ‘The Golden Age in Baghdad.

32:56 Now, not only are they being as busy as they can in killing Christians, but they are

33:00 also busy establishing the shariah doctrine. They are also busy establishing the hadith doctrine.

33:04 And they are also busy doing things like slave trading. You know all those exotic photo pictures

33:08 you’ve seen of the harem. The sort of pre-Playboy sexy? Beautiful women wearing gauzy outfits.

33:20 All of those women were Christians. Less romantic sounding, isn’t it?

33:26 The other thing that is happening in Baghdad is this, a new philosophy is being generated

33:30 in which there is no cause and no effect.

33:35 This turns out to paralyze the mind.

33:41 OK. Those were all the battles that were fought during the mythical ‘Golden Age’

33:48 During the ’Golden Age’, Christians and Jews were dhimmis. Christians were sex slaves.

33:52 Here’s one that gets me. During this Baghdad ‘Golden Age’ there evolved a philosophy

33:56 in which there were no laws of nature and there was no cause and effect.

34:04 I’m a scientist. We work off of two laws. The law of contradiction - does the data contradict the data?

34:12 And the law of cause and effect.

34:15 I’ve just explained to you why in the ‘Golden Age’ you don’t find

34:18 Muslims getting Nobel prizes in science.

34:21 You cannot be a scientist and not believe in cause and effect! You just can’t. It won’t work.

34:32 Now then, the Christians did all the translation of the vaunted ‘Golden Age’ texts and, get this,

34:36 we’re told that this was such a great peak of learning? They destroyed 90% of the books.

34:40 And we’re told the remaining ten percent they preserved is like. . .

34:43 ‘Oh, this was the ‘Golden Age’. Oh, we live in eternal gratitude to the Muslims.’

34:47 If they hadn’t come along, we’d have had 100% of them!

34:55 Presented with the library in India, the largest library in the world was a Buddhist library in Nalanda.

35:04 They came to him and reported they exist after they conquered and they said,

35:07 ‘What should we do with the library?’

35:10 The order from the general was this. . .’if it contains any information that is in the Qur’an -

35:14 we already have it, burn it. If it contains any information that is not in the qur’an, it is false, burn it.’

35:24 The same was done with most all of the libraries.

35:28 Why are we told this was some wonderful ‘Golden Age’ that preserved knowledge for us?

35:33 Ottoman Empire 1683. The reason I have this up here is Islam in Europe.

35:43 That’s the world today. I’ve now explained to you how this world came about.

35:46 It came about through relentless, brutal persecution of everyone who was not a Muslim.

35:54 Now then, let’s change to modern times. All of that work stops in 1922.

35:58 This works off of a data base of 19,000 jihad attacks since 9/11.

36:03 Things like this, the date/the country/the city/how many killed/injured/and a description.

36:11 Now, when you present a guy like me with 19,000 pieces of data, I start asking questions.

36:14 How do we make this make sense? So let’s make it make sense.

36:19 By the way, you did hear about all these 19,000 attacks in the Tennessean and the local paper,

36:23 didn’t you? (audience chuckles loudly in the background)

36:25 You did hear about this, it was on the nightly news?

36:28 [A male audience member mentions he heard about Fort Hood

36:30 and a female audience member reminds him: ‘the workplace incident’.]

36:33 Oh, the workplace incident, yeah, I got that.

36:35 All right. OK. Moving along here.

36:37 This, by the way, is where all these took place, if you think that is interesting.

36:41 You’ll notice something.

36:45 This is the Islamic world and it all centers around it. But notice how much is happening in Europe?

36:50 I take the data and I parse it and I divide it. I use Islamic doctrine to analyze this data.

36:58 What does Islamic doctrine insist on?

36:59 Well, in my first lecture, I told you they are fixated on the kafir. Right?

37:03 So, I use the kafir to analyze this data from the Islamic standpoint.

37:07 See I’m the ultimate multi-culturalist. No, really. (audience chuckles)

37:13 I’m the only person you’ve ever met that analyzes Islam on the basis of Islam. Here we go.

37:18 Here we have, in the last ten years, the total number of attacks.

37:23 In the green we have Muslim-on-Muslim violence. You mean a Muslim will kill a Muslim?

37:27 (audible audience reaction) Really? They’re doing this is Syria as we speak, right?

37:34 Remember Iran and Iraq? OK.

37:37 Then we have the only one I care about. I mean, my motto here is

37:41 ‘sell weapons and intelligence to the loser.’ [audience chuckles]

37:47 I’m very serious. You think I’m joking. [audience collective response, ‘no’].

37:51 OK. Here’s our story, right here. . .it stays pretty level. That’s interesting.

37:58 By the way, there is hardly a day in which there is not a jihad attack.

38:01 Modern jihad is relentless and classical. Oh, by the way, one of the things

38:05 this curve proves right here, Islam is bad for kafirs, Islam is bad for Muslims.

38:13 Islam is bad to Muslim and non-Muslim. That’s what this data shows us. You want to argue with that?

38:20 OK. Modern jihad is relentless but what did we see in the other battle map? It was relentless.

38:26 There are two types of jihad - against kafir and against Muslim. You see, evidently to kill a Muslim -

38:30 the reason in Syria they are killing other Muslims - they are not ‘real’ Muslims. OK?

38:37 Now then, we’ve introduced however, a new phenomenon - the mom & pop,

38:41 non-state jihadi shop. OK?

38:46 All those battles up until 1922 were out of the Caliph. OK?

38:52 We now have non-state jihad. That is all that is different.

38:59 OK. Jihad attacks per year, I just chose the top four nations, but this doesn’t really give us

39:03 what we want because Israel is teeny weeny and India is great big. . .so let’s do this on per capita:

39:11 Now then, Israel? I bet you were surprised about Thailand.

39:15 You didn’t know that Thailand was getting whacked on a regular basis, did you?

39:20 And look, here’s a Christian nation, the Philippines ranks number three. In India it was Hindu.

39:24 Oooops, do you know what? I just told you jihad was against the Jew, the Buddhist,

39:28 the Christian and the Hindu.

39:32 This is the data. Now you go to these dialogues these multi-cultural snoozes

39:36 that they have with the preacher and the rabbi and the imam show up.

39:45 The preacher and the rabbi show up to tie, the Muslim shows up to win.

39:48 And then what does the Muslim tell them? ‘Oh, the Christians and the Jews,

39:52 they are the people of the book. Oh, we have - we’re brothers in the religion of Abraham

39:56 with the Christian and the Jew. You know, we’re practically the same. We’re brothers in Abraham.

40:00 How’s that stuff work out? Well, here’s one of your people of the book. Here’s another people of the

40:04 book. Turns out they’ll kill a Jew, a Buddhist, a Christian, or a Hindu just as fast as they will another.

40:14 So much for being ‘brothers in the religion of Abraham’.

40:18 The data does not support the theory, therefore the theory is wrong.

40:22 There is no brotherhood of Abraham except in the minds of the people who occupy pulpits.

40:31 The jihad is against the Jew, the Buddhist, the Christian and the Hindu and the Secularists,

40:35 by the way. The Secularists are the worst of all.

40:39 Well, maybe worse than the Hindu, well it’s hard to know. I mean really.

40:43 It’s against ALL kafirs. That’s what the jihad is against.

40:48 The Religion of Peace. Here we go:

40:50 548 battles, 19,000 jihad attacks, in twelve decades in 1400 years that are jihad free.

41:00 Therefore, Islam is 91% violence and 9% peace.

41:04 So, George Bush was 9% right when he declared Islam a religion of peace.

41:08 Constant violence is why. There is a doctrine.

41:11 The doctrine of jihad is found in the Sira, Koran and Hadith

41:14 We’ve already been over this. They don’t like kafirs.

41:19 We have a whole doctrine of jihad written in the text.

41:23 Islam was only successful through jihad, therefore, we have a doctrine

41:27 which produces jihad and it produces this effect in the collapse of civilizations.

41:34 Here we go. . .Tears of Jihad

41:37 270 million dead over fourteen hundred years. Read them and weep. The doctrine drives history.

41:44 History shows the true nature of political Islam. Political Islam is the enemy of all Kafir civilizations.

41:51 Here’s an intellectual history in fourteen hundred years. I’ve read a lot of old documents.

41:55 They never talk about the Muslim. They talk about the Arab, the Turk, the Moor,

41:59 al Qaeda, Asian. . .and it’s always been by specialists.

42:05 And today, all the establishment specialists are apologists for Islam.

42:10 Why was the qur’an code not cracked until recently? How come we don’t teach Mohammed

42:14 and why is the ‘Golden Age’ propaganda taught?

42:17 Why do we remain ignorant and keep suffering? I maintain there is a reason for this.

42:24 I maintain that this constant brutality over the centuries has produced in the Western mind

42:28 the equivalent of the abused dog, the beaten wife and the raped child.

42:33 We do not think correctly. Anybody seen the beaten dog cower when you approach it.

42:38 That is the Western mind.

42:42 We deny the attacks. How much jihad is ever reported?

42:46 The churches will not even admit that a Christian suffers anywhere.

42:50 Fear. Mohammed used fear. Any public critic of Islam, has a certain fear element there.

42:56 Guilt. ‘Oh, we haven’t treated Islam right. If we treated them better, everything would be good.’

43:02 We don’t teach the history.

43:05 We’re humiliated. Who here is going to go home to brag about how your ancestors were slaves,

43:09 how your history was annihilated and that all we teach is the lie of ‘The Golden Age’?

43:16 Have you not noticed since 9/11 how bitter and angry politics has gotten?

43:20 The reason is, we are not allowed to get angry at the enemy.

43:25 We get angry with each other.

43:27 We’re powerless. Anybody want to debate about this?

43:34 The Abuser. Muslims will not admit they sold a single slave or ever killed a person.

43:38 They are arrogant and self confident. Islam is perfect.

43:42 Islam means ‘submit’. They expect submission out of us and they get it.

43:48 Islam is the victim. After 9/11 I heard this. The real victims of 9/11 were the Muslims.

43:52 You heard that anywhere?

43:56 After fourteen hundred years of jihad brutality and slavery, theft, deception,

43:60 rape, annihilation and insults the kafir mind has become identical to that of the abused victim.

44:05 Our only solution is to face our history and welcome it and embrace it. This is exactly

44:09 the way we will heal our nation is the way we heal a person who has been brutalized.

44:20 You have to go back to the original event. And this is why we are afraid. Thank you.

Posted by Baron Bodissey at 9/10/2012 01:26:00 AM

Source. Accessed 20160127. I see it appears not to have been updated since 2013, so I’m putting the transcript here just in case, and also so that I can comment on it in the margins if it seems appropriate. I italicize parts that I comment on in the margin. The Jessica I refer to there is the Islamicist mentioned in the previous page to this who kindly responded to my question about Dr. Warner’s tirade. That response (and my question) are here.

He’s setting up his audience’s feelings with this patter. Everybody is scared and yet they don’t know why. Slavery and bad smells.

How strange, when any comparative-minded reader would surely think of how the US is founded on slavery. No bad smell there? What is this?

Jessica interestingly views this as an instance of a now-discounted Gestalt construction of history. As she says, “almost the exact same thesis could be stated for Judaism, which has suffered a negative association in the minds of Christian Europeans for two millennia, a fact that has basically nothing to do with the real actions of actual Jewish communities.”

As Jessica points out, she and several hundred other scholars are quite specialized in this question. I don’t see how Dr. Warner’s liking big, old books makes him an expert entitled to speak (as he does) without reference to scholars in this field and their conclusions as to how this happened. Jessica is very clear on this important point.  Why isn’t it important to my friend John?

As you say, it’s repugnant, but it’s also just really bad scholarship.  For those of you who’ve forgotten Dr. Warner, he is a doctor, but of applied physics.  He explains in the opening of his talk that he started studying Islam after 9/11, and that he “likes to read old books,” but stresses to his audience that he’s “not a historian.”  This may be the only thing about which we agree.  Indeed, if I got Dr. Warner’s talk as a final paper from a first year undergraduate, I would be hard-pressed not to fail that student.  His talk fails to engage directly with almost any primary sources; it doesn’t reveal any awareness of the vast corpus of secondary material about the study of Medieval Europe, Byzantine history, or the study of Islam; it suggests a serious misunderstanding about time periods, and finally, it demonstrates almost no capacity for historical or historiographic methodology (i.e. how to read texts critical, how to use material and archaeological evidence, how textual dating works) – in short, not only is his account of Islamic history factually inaccurate, his talk lacks any illustration that he understands even the most basic building blocks of how history is studied in the 21st century.

From: 1400 years is actually a really long time… Askanislamicist (Jessica).

And the last days of FDR were spent killing Japanese and subjugating them. Harry Truman continued that process. And perhaps they were doing other things at the same time.

A homophobic slur, I take it. Like the next one implying they were just barbarians, not reflective, thoughtful people at all — like that one, this is designed to create disgust and fear in the listener, not to inform her. This is the true nature of Islam, we are told. We might as well argue from the US wars of the 20th century that murderous barbarity is the essence of Christianity. Or democracy or capitalism. That is the fruit of the tree.

Of course, there might be a kernel of truth or two in each of those conclusions. What we have in Dr. Williams’ exclusive focus on Islam with this reasoning is manifest racism or perhaps deliberate crafting of a deceptive argument for reasons we don’t see. This is casuistry or Sophistry. It is repugnant to reason.

Or, mutatis mutandis, why native Americans fear Americans or blacks fear whites or … you name it. In short this is a call to his listeners to fear Islam rather than any kind of reasoned study of the history of the late antiquity. See Jessica on that.

See in Jessica, Islam caused 500 battles. (About half-way down the page.) If this were not the obviously intelligent Dr. Warner speaking, I’d call it stupid beyond belief. However, since he clearly is not stupid, we must conclude he is deliberately deceptive. This is ugly, rabble-rousing hate speech. As Warner points out at the 2 minute mark, “Facts are secondary to feelings” when it comes to making a sale. See Jessica on the battles.

Jessica is devastating on this: “Islam caused the Dark Ages: Again, this is evidence that while Dr. Warner might enjoy reading old books, he definitely hasn’t read any new ones.  Not only is Islam not responsible for the European Dark Ages, most historians no longer believe in the existence of ‘the Dark Ages.’”


How can my friend John, who holds a PhD in Chemistry and has been a college administrator as well as chemistry professor, take this swaggering drivel seriously?

I have personally lost so much respect for Dr. Warner’s writing by now — and that idea might easily be put into much harsher language — that I can not bring myself to examine the rest of it with anything other than disgust.

The following is from the source given in the right margin, and is a time-annotated transcript of the Warner talk in question.